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- INTERVIEW, Page 20The Growing Crisis In Medical Science
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- LEON ROSENBERG, dean of the Yale Medical School, says the
- world's best research system is collapsing and President Bush
- should fix it
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- By DICK THOMPSON and Leon Rosenberg
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- Q. You keep saying the nation's health-research program is
- "burning." Certainly that's excessive.
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- A. It's not an overstatement to say the country's structure
- for the support of biomedical research is burning. The problems
- are significant enough that if they are not attended to soon,
- the U.S. could lose its position as the world's leader in
- health-sciences research. I do not regret the use of the word
- burning. We have a national treasure here that's in some
- jeopardy.
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- Q. What is so disturbing?
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- A. There is more anguish in the ranks of scientists than
- we've had in 20 years. In academic institutions, young people
- are apprehensive about throwing in their lot with the field.
- Established investigators have become demoralized as a smaller
- and smaller fraction of their grant requests are funded.
- Institutional leaders see decay in the research facilities in
- which this research is carried out. And the entire enterprise
- suffers from the absence of any long-term strategic planning.
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- Q. What's the cause, in your view?
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- A. We have gotten to this situation because the leadership
- of the health-sciences research community has addressed the
- problems on a short-term, piecemeal basis, essentially looking
- at the problem only as long as the one-year budget cycle of
- Congress. That style of leadership has led to a virtual roller
- coaster of boom and bust. We are now suffering from a vacuum
- in national leadership for science in general and health
- science in particular.
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- Q. Recently Congress, in a harshly worded report, blamed
- scientists themselves for creating this chaos.
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- A. There is much truth in that House report. And there is
- an edge in the language that I have previously not seen from
- the House committee, and it is a reflection of the frustration
- that Congress feels with the leadership of the National
- Institutes of Health and with the leadership of biomedical
- research across the country.
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- Q. Is it correct that the problem isn't so much a vacuum of
- leadership as it is a political brawl for leadership -- among
- the supporters of the human genome project, the AIDS lobby,
- cancer researchers?
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- A. The scientific community is responsible in a major way
- for the paradoxes and dilemmas in which we find ourselves. The
- paradox is that this decay is occurring at a time when there
- are more opportunities than ever to ferret out the secrets of
- human biology and apply those secrets to the reduction of human
- suffering. The dilemma is that we must obtain more funding for
- the support of this effort in order to capitalize on those
- opportunities and improve the morale of the scientific
- community, while at the same time acknowledging that we have
- been generously supported for the past 40 years. Thus it is
- difficult to formulate a message that is not dead on arrival.
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- Q. Medical researchers have been pampered. Isn't it time to
- evaluate whether this investment has been wisely spent? The
- mortality rate for cancer has risen by 8% in the past 20 years.
- Doesn't that indicate a failure of return or an inappropriate
- investment?
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- A. Any serious economic assessment of health-sciences
- research will demonstrate that it has been remarkably cost
- effective. For example, the funds that were expended to develop
- the polio vaccine 30 years ago were quite small compared to the
- value derived from the virtual eradication of poliomyelitis.
- It has been calculated that if polio had not been prevented,
- the cost to the country in 1990 of caring for the millions of
- people with polio would exceed all the funds that have been
- spent by the NIH in the past 30 years. In 1955 essentially all
- children who developed acute leukemia died quickly with an
- enormous amount of suffering because of infections, because of
- anemia, because of bleeding tendencies. Today 70% of all
- children with acute leukemia are cured by combined chemotherapy
- programs. It is the best success story in the war on cancer
- that we have.
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- Q. In fact, it's an aberration, isn't it?
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- A. Yes it is.
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- Q. Significant improvements in the public health could be
- made with behavioral changes: smoking cessation and so on.
- Isn't there too little money going into what are high targets
- of opportunity?
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- A. You're touching on a crucial national problem, which is,
- What kind of a society do we demand to have? To place the
- responsibility for that on the health-science community is, I
- would say, unfair. The responsibility for that judgment rests
- with the entire country's priorities. Why do we undervalue the
- young? Why are our disadvantaged minorities so sick? Why is
- education in such horrendous shape in math and science? We live
- in a remarkably complicated society in which we have been
- incapable of having all our citizens share in the fruits of our
- national labors. But it would be remarkably shortsighted and
- illogical to say that the responsibility for that lies with
- those who generate new information. We must all accept the
- responsibility for the social problems that so much are the
- underlying causes for poor health and disease.
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- Q. What are the priorities of health-science researchers?
- Is it the extension of what they're doing, their own
- intellectual entertainment, or is it the improvement of public
- health? What's first?
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- A. It would be naive for me to say that the average working
- scientist has a broad societal perspective about his or her
- work. People go into science because they are inquisitive and
- because they believe that knowing more about our world will
- improve it. Our country has benefited enormously from the
- support of much unfocused basic research because in totally
- unexpected ways it has provided insights into medical problems
- that have been of enormous significance.
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- Q. Everyone would agree that it's in the country's interest
- to spend money on unfocused research, but given that we are in
- an era of limits, priorities are going to have to be set. What
- are your priorities?
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- A. My first priority is to create an environment in which
- talented young people choose careers in health-sciences
- research, because without them our future will be blighted. My
- second priority would be to fashion a system in which talented,
- more senior researchers could obtain stable funding for their
- best work. Those two priorities cannot be achieved without
- setting some limits and making difficult choices.
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- Q. O.K., so make some difficult choices. Is too much being
- spent on AIDS? Is the human genome project overfunded?
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- A. If it is impossible to increase significantly the federal
- budget for health-sciences research in the near future, then
- I would favor reducing funding for the human genome initiative
- and even for AIDS. I stand with the priorities I outlined, and
- I realize that means we can't have business as usual.
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- Q. How can we set national priorities?
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- A. We need a group of people brave enough to be willing to
- set down a point of view for the next five to ten years and
- then to develop a consensus that will replace the
- one-year-at-a-time haggling.
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- Q. How do you do that?
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- A. I would call upon the President to appoint a commission
- to develop policy guidelines for science in general and for
- biomedical research in particular. We haven't had a major
- policy statement in 50 years. Everything suggests not only that
- the time is right, but that the time demands such broad
- thinking.
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